I don't remember what age I was, but I grew up on Phil Donahue. After school, I'd watch it and learn various stuff that's still probably imbedded in my psyche. Even at that young age, I always thought he was one of the best in this genre, he seemed genuine and fair on all subjects. And he he did it in this episode, though the crap day time shows in this genre today would probably go out of their way to put the kids down; however, fuck it, the kids are alright.
I must have missed this episode. I am glad I watched it tonight.
"...soon even hardcore will be mainstream, and you'll have to do something else."